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9
Jun

HCMC 4th Tweetup

   Posted by: Chip    in Networking, Outside VN

First, I want to thank you all for joining/supporting me and Twitter Community in Vietnam at this Tweetup on Sunday, June 7, 2009.

I must admit that I felt a little bit awkward at first, because none of old Tweetup mates (except Anh Hung, KhanhLNQ, Jishan) came. As Ngon Pham said, I was like lost in an isolate island. I talked to myself: “What is the point of all these things? Why do I have to do that? Where is everybody else?” Yes, I was discouraged. But well, I have to say “Thanks” millions times to people who came join us that day, and billions times for being so active and contributive, for helping me out. We had about 20 people showing up - perfect for a tweetup. The only matter is that it was in Vietnamese, so it wasn’t so convenient for some non-Vietnamese speakers who came late. I’m so sorry about that, and I promise the next Tweetup will be in English as all other tweetups. I’m also sorry to people who couldn’t come because of late update about the venue. To people who didn’t come, please think twice & listen to actual attendees before talking ill about it.  Be thougtful!

4hcmctweetup

By Lawrence Sinclair :)

Who were there?

1. Chris Tran Huu Luat – from Admax Vietnam.

2. Tuan Tran – ???

3. Tran Dang Khoa – ???

4. Le Nguyen Quoc Khanh – i-Pop Vietnam

5. Minh Phan – i-Pop Vietnam

6. Paul Nguyen Hung – VON

7. Tim (Tuan) Duong – i-Pop Vietnam.

8. Thuy Uong – Admax Vietnam

9. Le NguyenFocation

10. Do Dang KhoiSaigonica

11. Anh Hung – TPL

12. Son Jishan – Frexy

13. Lawrence Sinclair – EastAgile

14. Patrick Kennedy – the US Consulate in Ho Chi Minh

15. Phuong (Pi) – ….

16. Tung Nguyen – RMIT

17. Le Na – ???

18. Phuong Luu - Saga

19. Huyen Chip (me, of course. I love the number 19 :D)

20. Ho Viet Haii360

21. Nguyen Duc Khiem – Mobile review

22. Bui Huu Chuong – …

23. Another guy from EastAgile, sorry, what is your name again?

24. …

My memory is really bad, so please correct me if I’m wrong, and please help me fulfill this list! Thanks a lot!

What was it about?

This tweetup was mostly about:

1. Yahoo! 360’s being shut down and its potential substitutes for Vietnam market: Facebook, WordPress, Yume, Yobanbe, Tamtay, etc.

2. The future of Twitter.

3. The market. Yes the truth is Vietnam market is very small, how can we deal with that?

4. Mobilization.

*** You can see/download full report (English) here, thank to our Minh Phan :)

*** We have some videos here, thank to KhanhLNQ.

*** Official hashtag for all Ho Chi Minh Tweetup is #hcmctweet

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Thanks a lot!

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Hey calm down, I’m not gonna make another long speech about macro-economics or noble patriotism. Just some thoughts about the future of Vietnamese web services in relationships with Vietnamese users and esp. early adapters.

One week ago, I had a very interesting discussion over this matter with CEO of VON - Paul Nguyen. His arguments agaisnt exotic products are:

- We Vietnamese people have to use Vietnamese products. Exotic comapnies like Google, etc. they don’t even have offices here, so they don’t have to spend so much money in Vietnam, don’t create jobs for Vietnamese but they still get users. In the mean time, Vietnamese companies have to spend millions US dollars, pay all the taxes, creates thousands jobs for Vietnamese, they should get something in return. In some countries like China, they require exotic companies to open offices in China, hire Chinese, pay taxes for Chinese governments in order to do business in China.

- Exotic products don’t necessarily mean they have better technology than Vietnamese products. Like Yahoo! 360’s technology & concept is such a lame that no where else in the world use it, except Vietnam. Yahoo! 360 plus is just a failed product in HongKong, then brought back to Vietnam. He believes Vietnamese products can do much better than that. But exotic companies have big names, and Vietnamese people are very fond of exotic things.

But he still believes in the future of Vietnamese products in general and Vietnamese social network sites in particular, b/c:

- We early adapters might find Facebook, Twitter, WordPress, Linkedin, etc. very useful and interesting. But the gap between early adapters and mass users in Vietnam is just too huge, and the number of early adapters are just so small (we have around 70k-80k facebook users compared to 2-3 millions Yahoo! 360’s users) that every service provider knows where their cash flow should go to and come from. Many Yahoo! 360’s users don’t even know how to upload a picture, they just simply hit the button “compose a blog entry” and type and send. Exotic products might be too complicated for them.

- The Vietnamese love color and show their own styles, while exotic products are normally just too simply designed. Just an example among many other differences in anguages and cultures.

He said, early adapters should use and talk more about Vietnamese products. Because if we just support exotic products, we will gradually kill Vietnamese products, let the foreigners take over us.

Several days ago was the inauguration of Nguyen Thanh Nam - the new CEO of FPT - the biggest Vietnamese IT company at the moment. One idea in his speech that drew public opinion’s attention was that he called for FPT people to use FPT’s products, not because of love only but because of trust in the products’s quality and the future of company. That might sound delirious, but is it absolutely impossible? He has his point, ofcourse.

Hm it has made me think a lot. Are we too enthusiastic about Facebook, Google, WordPress, Twitter, etc. and forget about Vietnamese products? Are we early adapters, and if yes, where do we stay if no service providers care about us?

I’m confused, though I obviously have my own explanation, but I want to hear your opinions first. Every idea is welcome. Thanks.

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As you all know, VON’s 3 most noticeable products are Timnhanh - a Viet search engine and Yume - a blog & social networkig site, and Kiemviec - an HR site, of which I’m interested the most in Yume - one of prominent candicates for Yahoo! 360′s substitute together with Tamtay, Yobanbe, YouSecond (Yeah in Vietnam blog means Yahoo! 360 and most people have no idea of what social network is. But well, it’s going to be shut down). According to Paul, Yume is gonna have a risky chance in June, with much more social features learned from Facebook.

Will you use Vietnam Web Services?

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