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12
Feb

Hanoi Twitter 1st Meetup - Updated

   Posted by: Chip    in Networking, Random Thoughts

Time: 7pm – 10pm Thursday, Feb 12

Location: Cafe Chim Xanh, 19 Khuc Hao, Hanoi

Agenda:

1. Getting to know each other

2. Twitter and Twitter Clones in Vietnam

3. Is there a crisis among Internet Companies? (CyVee, Faceviet, Vega, VON)

4. BarCamp Hanoi 2

Facebook Group for Twitter Community in Vietnam is here.

Facebook Event is here.

Twitter tag for it is: #twithanoi or #hanoitwit. But next time it should be #hanoitwit only.

Will blog about it after that.

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Hey just came back from Twitter Offline in Hanoi. It was damn good actually. Thanks everyone for coming. Sorry it was my fault not to clarify that it was cafe only, not dinner.

Who were there?

Jeremi was the first to come, and then me. Actually Chim Xanh was a bit small, and we didn’t have time to talk peer to peer. I’ll write down list of people who were there so that you can easily recall. The problem is I’m pretty absent-minded, so please remind me if I accidentally forget anyone or give any wrong information. Thank you!

1. Jeremi Joslin – Product Manager at eXo Platform.

@jeremi

He was to the first to come, even ealier than me. A nice French guy riding a nice bike :)

2. Me – The author of this blog post. I’m the 2nd to come.

@chipro

3. Vương – Petalia.org

@tonami

Petalia has Alexa Ranking of 8700 worldwide, wow, not bad at all. Hey Vương, tell me more about yourself and your site. Are you working on it with your sisters & brothers?

4. Nguyễn Đức Hoàng

@hoang188

He is working at BiTTech, researching Google Apps and cloud computing, right?

5. Nguyễn Trung Kiên

@forty4vn

A young and active web designer at a Russian company, Badadu Media.

6. Hoạt Lê

@hoatle

A student at Hanoi University of Technology and Hanoi- Aptech. He just won second prize on Google Open Social Apps contest (right??) He will start working for eXo since next week.

He came with a schoolmate named Huy Dũng. His Twitter: @vannessars

7. Bryan Pelz

@bryanpelz

Many of us already know him, Co-Founder of Vinagame, and he lives part-time in Hanoi hahaa. Such a nice surprise to see you there, Bryan. I always like your humor, and you actually gave us a lot of precious information.

8. Nguyễn Thành Long

@epi_longo

He’s working at the same company as me, ePi Technologies. He has great marketing sense. He’s working a project about GenY.

9. Nguyễn Tuấn Anh

@tradaonline

He’s working on Social Media at VC Corp. He’s really good on WordPress and WordPress MU. He’s a rock fan and also the founder & admin of Rockpassion.

10. Nguyễn Minh Thảo

@cnccom

Chairman & CEO of CNC Software. His company is about to launch a social network for lovers in Vietnam, called http://traitim.vn

11. Lê Ngọc Quốc Khánh

@khanhlnq

One of the best programmer for JavaMobile, admin of JavaVietnam.org. He’s based in HCMC and wow, we are so lucky to have him join us in Hanoi today.

12. Nhữ Đình Thuận

What’s your Twitter account?

Another famous Java programmer, and an admin of JavaVietnam.org as well. He’s now working on his own company, Headvances. A typical product of his is a search engine called Moom.vn

13. Lê Đức Thắng

Chairman of TBWA Vietnam. FYI, TBWA is a son of OmniCom, the largest ads network in the world. The funny thing is that most Vietnamese never ever heard of that name.

14. Nguyễn Hải Linh

A really really talented manager. He’s been in charge of Lenovo Vietnam since he was only 23!!!!! OMG.

15. Sơn Bùi

He was once in charge of Punch Vietnam, but now he’s in a partnership with Baomoi. Secret! I’d love to talk more to you.

Both Thắng, Linh & Sơn haven’t been on Twitter yet, they are together.

16. Rick Rodgers

@rickrodgers

How could I forget you, Rick!!!! He’s in charge of Chodientu- eBay relationship (Peacesoft ofcourse). He’s also an organizer of BarCampSaigon. But you are always so mean to me, Rickkkkk!!

17. ThạchNN

@lockevn

Technical leader at Luften. They are working on a project similar to Twitter for Vietnam with some more features, called Tiutit.com (previous known as Loop.vn).Check out his comment below for more information.

18. Bill Tran (Tuấn Trần)

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He’s in charge of Luften in Vietnam. Vietnamese - born, Polish – grown and American – educated. Sweet smile.

19. Mike Le (Thành Lê)

Founder and CEO of FaceViet. He’s also working for An Binh Security. His most impressive announcement there was Faceviet didn’t go bankruptcy!!!

20. Ninh Nguyễn

@xoai

A young & talented social guy, a product manager at VC Corp. He’s a product manager. He gave us a pretty nice vision about VC Corp, where LinkHay would be the central point (a platform like Facebook and every other product would be like applications)

21. Bùi Quang Huy

Director of Viettel Media. He told me he couldn’t come, then he arrived a bit late with a Malaysian guy named Joey. He seemed to know many people there. B/c of arriving late, he couldn’t share much. But his friend Joey already shared out an interesting news that he was working with Vinaphone & Mobiphone on lbs project?? (Was it? Anyone plz confirmed for me, I sat to far away from him).

22. Nguyễn Duy Hưng

Another quiet guy from Social Media, VC Corp. I hope you did enjoy it, Hưng. Sorry we couldn’t talk more. Hope to see you soon.

23. Tuấn Nguyễn

@conquerorvn

He’s doing some research but I didn’t understand him clearly ‘cos he was a lil bit far. Hey tell us more abt yourself :)

24. Thái Mak

@dtlvan

He’s working for VTC Intecom, online game. He’s young, enthusiastic and a good friend :)

Did I miss anything?

What was happening?

Actually, we didn’t only talk about Twitter, but all about doing Internet in Vietnam (junk, huh?)

Let’s go through some quick facts about Twitter first.

What is the most serious thing we have to face with when doing microblogging in Vietnam?

- People don’t know what micro-blogging is.

- Twitter hasn’t made any money, so how can a Twitter clone make money?

Some interesting information we got from this meetup:

- FaceViet didn’t go bankruptcy – confirmed by FaceViet’s Founder, Mike Le.

- There’s no point to do a Facebook clone in Vietnam (I’m not so sure about it)

- Bad PR can be good, but not always.

- Localization is not only about translation, but also about customization features to get on with cultures and habits.

- VC Corp is trying to make LinkHay a platform like FaceViet, and all other products of VC Corp will work like applications.

- Of all people using OpenID at VC Corp’s products, 90% use Yahoo and only 10% use Google.

- Micro-blogging & iTV will be hot in 2009

- BarcampHanoi 2 will be on April 12.

- Vietnamese and Chinese people like portal websites.

- You name it.

After Chim Xanh, some of us went for a beercamp and dinner on Mã Mây str., then went for some nice bars. It was a totally great evening. Thanks again for everything.

Hope to see you guys very soon! Tell me if you want another meetup like that in Hanoi next time :)

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3
Nov

How far you can go, Mr. Facebook Clone?

   Posted by: Chip    in Vietnam

Update 1: For you guys who wanna be a Vietnamese Facebook, check out the press room of Facebook (click here), esp. this timeline - quite interesting to know that orginal Facebook didn’t even have the Wall feature.

Update 2: The email from Mark Ford: A TGB guy.

Many exicting new sites came through my eyes these days, just don’t have time to blog about them (Check out upcoming events in Vietnam for geeks). But HarryD did a nice coverage about Thegioiban and other gamers in FB clone bandwagon. Well, this bandwagon is getting hot, and it’s burning me!!!!!

As far as I know, Thegioiban (TGB) is one of 2 new guys joining Facebook clone bandwagon. The other guy is YouSecond (YS). Anhyou (former Anhone) is supposed to be another FB clone but I’m still waiting for an invitation from Mr. Khoi Pham. ‘Til now it has nothing to show at its front page.

FaceViet, TGB and YS have suprisingly many things in common. Both sites were built on SocialEngine - a pretty famous software for Facebook clone. Both sites are run by overseas Vietnamese or overseas students, mostly from the US. And both sites are not well funded by any deep pocket venture capital at least until now (please correct me if I’m wrong). But they have different approaches and perspectives.

The biggest and oldest player FaceViet was launched in Oct 2007 and hasn’t made any big thing so far. FV team was pretty motivated at first but now everyone seems to be quite busy with his/her own job. FV’s high profile and well-educated users was the point to atract me at first but it’s also the fatal weakpoint for itself. Initial users those were supposed to orient user behaviors and help new users get used with the site were all founders’ friends. They used English with each other, talked about their own stuff and weren’t willing to make friends with people from lower background. Well, still remember FV is a Facebook clone for Vietnamese common use? Thanh Le, FV founder once told me that FV targeted mobile platform. An interesting approach for monetization ‘cos mobile is seen super potential considering 40 millions mobile users in Vietnam. Do you still keep that in mind or you already have another plan, Mr. Thanh?

YS is a YouNet Solution’s baby, launched about 5 months ago. It didn’t catch my attention at first but after some chats with Hoa and Ryan, I found the idea of building YS community based on REAL communities (like Thanh Nien House of Culture) really smart!!!!! Hey you guys, I like your forum 2.0 concept. It may take more time but you can be sure of users’ quality and loyalty. Just make sure you have a sustainable financial plan and keep your fire in heart. Let’s see how far you can go.

TGB impressed me by its exellent code + design (you can say well-customized SocialEngine) and the speed even though it’s hosted in the US. I greatly appreciate your efforts, your team esp. Mark with a great sense of humor and Spanish, but to be honest, I can’t see any difference in your site. Could you please tell me about that?

Update 2: Ya, Mark Ford sent me an interesting email after my question. There’s no secret here so I think it’s no problem to put it here.

“……

You have asked a really good question, but a really hard one to answer at the moment, none the less, I will endeavour to respond accordingly.

but to be honest, I can’t see any difference in your site. Could you please tell me about that?”

As you could probably see, the site is still under development by Thang Nguyen. To date, Thang has been working on some of the features that SocialEngine currently offer, but after discussions, we do realise that there is something missing and we brainstorm each other everyday trying to come up with the missing “link” if you pardon the pun. Following the demise of Yahoo360, and the current “in thing” in Vietnam still being blogging, we are looking at ways to perhaps fill that void, but let me tell you, its one heck of a large void to fill, but something that we are aiming towards. Any ideas that we are currently toying with, without their implementation, I’m not ready to go into at this stage, but stay tuned for updates.

One of the areas that we are looking at now is also ensuring that our back end is robust enough to manage Users and to ensure that if they POKE us, we’re there to be poked and can respond in a prompt efficient manner whether its in Vietnamese or English. This is where our geographical locations comes in handy, there is usually one of us, if not both of us around.

You also pointed out something that is quite important for us and that is the speed at which the site delivers even though the servers are hosted in the US. That is a trade secret at the moment, but as you can see its working quite well.

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You may have question about the other guys. Nothing special.

Tamtay was brought back to stage after IDGVV investment. As far I know, Tamtay was first built to be a Facebook clone but I just don’t know what exactly it is now with thousands pics of hot girls. Music? Film? Pics? SNS? Blog? Tamtay Chat? But what IDG brought to Tamtay seemed to be not only money but a whole new blow. Tamtay is doing some big changes on its strategy and staff, to concentrate more than community. Frankly, I don’t have much partiality for this site since it blocked my account just b/c my duplicate messages (my internet connection was terrible at that time) without any notice or explanation. Such a service!

Truongxua with its grand opening ceremony, boasted $10 millions USD of investment and GSO PLV system doesn’t seem to work well. People come to Truongxua mostly b/c of curiosity, and far from serious.

Guongmat is another Facebook clone built on SocialEngine. Nothing special.

Zoomban was dead. And is there anybody using Vietnamese version of Facebook?

Did I forget anything?

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