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Jan

News & Information - Continued

   Posted by: Chip   in Random Thoughts

Finally I woke up. Thanks for you valuable opinions on my unfinished blog post “News and Information” (esp. Tai Tran and ePi.Longo, you guys have some really good points). Now let me finish what I started.

Back to the question Long asked me was: “If people used SE to search some information outside the online newspaper sphere, why did they still go to Baomoi (or any online newspaper) again?”. Tai actually had a pretty decent answer for that (You can track full converstation here).

SE is just a tool for search, not a content site. The keywors here are “News” and “Information”. You go to a search engine to search for “Information”, and go to a newspaper to read “News”. News gives us Information, but you can find Information in News, in people’s reactions, analyzation, etc. The top priority for News is “hot”, while for “Information” it is “deep”. I know it’s confusing, but let’s make it clear step by step.
First, suppose that you hear about **something** and want to know more about it for a variety of reasons (Read Tai.tran’s 2nd comment). It means that you hear a “News” and now you want to get more “Information”. People don’t use the built-in SE inside some newspapers ‘cos we know that it sux, and there are many sources of Information rather than some single newspapers.

Baomoi’s blog introduced a series called: “Why Social Works” (You can read the Vietnamese version here). A nice coverage. But actually I don’t really like it ‘cos “social” doesn’t reach the bottom of it. What do social news sites like Digg, Mixx, Reddit do?? Why they work? It’s b/c they don’t give users only “News”, but also lots of “Information”. You submit a link, if it’s interesting & attracts a lot of people, it will get to “hot” very soon. Then people comment, introduce related links that can suplement a full story that give you deep Information. Social power makes it work! You see, that can satisfy: make News hot and make Information deep.

Then comes another question: In Vietnam, is there any source for Information other than newspapers? Blogs, Social Sites, Wikis, Micro-blogs??

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8 comments so far

 1 

Can’t find another source other than newspaper in Vietnam. Anyway, I don’t think much bout the news and information. “Social” here in my opinion is the “chance”. Chance of users, news and information to appear and raise their voices.

2009-01-09 at 10.14 am
 2 

You get it right this time. Different services, different purposes. The only chance I use the search function on an online newspaper is when I do research and want to look for articles that write about the subject matter. If I want to seek information, SE is the way to go. News is Information but Information is not News. Cheers

2009-01-09 at 2.56 pm
 3 

SE can’t find you news, but It can help you to find sources of news, no matter what types it is. Let google “latest news” in any language and see what we found :-D

2009-01-09 at 5.59 pm
Chris
 4 

You have to have an idea that something happened for search to work. The same reason that Google Blogsearch isn’t as good as Technorati for keeping track of blogs.

News and the Google Algorithm are natural enemies.

2009-01-09 at 6.16 pm
 5 

Chris, can you be a little more geeky by giving the “News and the Google Algorithm are natural enemies.” more in depth analysis. Plz share :)

2009-01-10 at 7.19 am
 6 

AnhHung, I think Chris want to say the hottest things sometimes is not the thing we want :)

2009-01-10 at 9.29 am
 7 

@Longo: Hey hello another Obama :) Can you tell more in detail about the chance you mentioned? I understand the chance users have to appear and raise your voice, but what’s happening to news and information?
@Anh Hung: Thanks. Your comment is the only one I fully understand :D
@Bao: You’re right that Google can help us find sources of news, but do you actually read news on Google??? I wonder how you can handle, filter all of them? Another prob is the time it takes for Google to index.
@Chris: Hmm what do you mean? I have the same request as Anh Hung, if you don’t mind :)

2009-01-10 at 10.32 am
 8 

And my question remained: “In Vietnam, is there any source for Information other than newspapers? Blogs, Social Sites, Wikis, Micro-blogs??”

2009-01-10 at 11.12 am

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