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It might sound simple, but an important factor to measure the maturity of social media in one country is the size of its largest Facebook fan pages. I was trying to find a list, but after almost an hour googling and scanning through all Facebook insight websites, the best I could find was the list from WATBlog more than 2 years back when MySpace was still the most popular social network site and Orkut still ruled in India. At that time, the largest fan page in India was for the game Scrabulous with roughly 32,000 fans.

In mid 2008, Facebook had only 77 millions users and now there are more than 500 millions people on Facebook. In India, the correspondent numbers are 646,000 and 13,000,000 (Of which, 11,300,000 are between 15 and 35 years old. Oops I feel like talking numbers and being pontifical now :P The number of Facebook users accounts for 16% total Internet users in India, which is 81,000,000 in number.)

Unable to find what I was looking for, I decided to do some researches myself. And I found out that…

the largest Facebook fan page in India has almost 1.5 million fan!! @_@

And if you are thinking what I’m thinking, you are right, the page must have something to do with Bollywood. But he’s not any of those strikingly hot actors nor actresses who are storming Bollywood gossips everyday. He’s rather a background figure, the one behind the masterpiece “Jai Ho” of Slumdog Millionaire, the first Indian who has ever won Globe Award and 2 Oscar awards. Yes, A. R. Rahman is the man! He triumphs both Aamir Khan and Shahrukh Khan to become the King of Indian Facebook community with 1,474,000 fans! He stands as a justification for the good taste of Indian millennium generation.

Following is another Bollywood product: “3 Idiots” with 1,193,000 fans. Even though I’m not really into the movie as I prefer comedies that use witty funny talks to those that rely on exaggerating actions, I have to say that the marketing team of this movie did an amazing job, both online and offline. I remembered laughing my ass off when I saw the super creative sticker on the back of most auto-rikshaws: “Capacity: 3 Idiots”. I really hope to have a chance to meet with the mastermind behind it all :-)

The next 5 places are all taken by Bollywood stars Aamir Khan, Shahrukh Khan, Salman Khan, Rabir Kapoor and Priyanka Chopra with 949,800; 747,400; 667,200; 602,900; 596,900 fans respectively. Bollywood’s fanpage itself has 297,300 fans, staying at number 14.

Coming close to Indians’ love for their homegrown Bollywood stars is their love for the country. There are a lot of fanpages created testify their patriotism and they have attracted hundreds of thousands of fans. India – Jai Ho, a fanpage created by a social media agency called SocialKonnekt, has comes 8th with 571,900 fans. Proud to be Indian, Growing INDIA, Growing Ourselves & making INDIA a better place to live in also have 327,200 and 267,200 fans. A good sign is that Indians are well aware of their accent. Every accent I try to do turns Indian has been liked by 206,500 self-conscious Facebook users.

No matter how secular the government wants India to be, India is a religious country. They love their Gods! They find everyway possible to pay their worship, either at home, in a temple or on Facebook! Lord Ganesha – the God of knowledge and the remover of obstacles – seems to be the favorite God with 453,800 fans (or should I call devotees?), occupying number 10. He is right below Akshay Kumar and above IPL – Indian Premier League, cricket league of course!

Talking about cricket, surprisingly, cricket is not a big shot here. At 11th place is the best IPL – Indian Premier League can do with  fans. Indian Cricket Team can’t even make it to Top 50 as it has only 39,000 fans. Can it be explained that Indian sport lovers are not really tech-savvy?

The thing that excites me the most is the presence of big brands on Facebook. Those giants, from international companies like Nike Football India, Blackberry India, MTV India, Samsung Mobile India, etc. to local conglomerates like Tata Docomo, Pantaloons, Kingfisher, etc. all have Facebook pages that have more than 100,000 fans each. Online stores also prove to be very good at selling online with flipkart.com and Indian Gifts Portal at number 19 and 35 with 273,000 & 190,200 fans respectively. Of course, there are always some agencies behind them. The deep pocket of big names, the eagerness of users together with the talents of young social media agencies have made Indian social media scene one of the most exciting in Asia.

Another thing worth-noticing is the existence of a company that has the name probably coined by a toddler “Socialkonnekt”, the website poorly designed, yet has created at least 7 fan pages with more than 100,000 fans. They also claimed to have increased the number of fans of a page 100,000 mores in just 8 days. I’m really curious to know how they did that. Are all those fans real? Do those fans really care about the page they become fans of? Anyone has ever heard of them? If so, please let me know. Thank you very much!

Here is the complete list of 50+ largest Indian fanpages on Facebook for your reference.

**Disclaimer:

1. This list was complied based on my own research; it’s not official and not associated with Facebook in any way. I’m sure I’ve missed out some pages which I sincerely hope that you can point out, thus we can make the list more accurate. It took me a whole day to make it, hopefully it can entertain you for few seconds.

2. By the time I finished this list, a lot of things have changed and the numbers of fans have increased.

No. Page Name Fans (000) Category
1 A. R. Rahman 1,474.0 Musician/Film Producer
2 3 Idiots 1,195.1 Movie
3 Aamir Khan 949.8 Actor
4 Shahrukh Khan 747.7 Actor
5 Salman Khan 667.2 Actor
6 Rabir Kapoor 602.9 Actor
7 Priyanka Chopra 596.9 Actress
8 India – Jai Ho 572.4 Patriotism
9 Akshay Kumar 560.9 Actor
10 Lord Ganesha 453.8 Religion
11 IPL – Indian Premier League 397.0 Cricket
12 Proud to be Indian 327.2 Patriotism
13 Bollywood 297.3 Movie
14 Facebook India 297.2 International Brand
15 Nike Football India 293.2 International Brand
16 Gandhi 286.8 Politician
17 Sarabhai vs Sarabhai 274.2 TV Show
18 flipkart.com 273.0 Local Brand
19 Growing INDIA, Growing Ourselves & making INDIA a better place to live in 267.2 Patriotism
20 India 266.0 Patriotism
21 Mumbai Indians 257.9 Cricket Team
22 Tata Docomo 257.7 Local Brand
23 Aamir Khan the Pucca Idiot 254.9 Actor
24 Pantaloons 246.5 Local Brand
25 The Taj Mahal 238.0 Landscape
26 Buzzintown 214.3 Local Brand
27 I Am Proud To Be An Indian 214.2 Patriotism
28 Kingfisher 207.2 Local Brand
29 Every accent I try to do turns Indian 206.5 Patriotism
30 BlackBerry® India 205.7 International Brand
31 Salman Khan Foundation -Being Human 192.8 Actor/NGO
32 Thank you Pakistan for taking Sania Mirza, Now Please take Rakhi Sawant also :) 192.5 lol
33 Indian Gifts Portal 190.2 Local Brand
34 Sony Erricssion India 185.5 International Brand
35 Jana Gana Mana (Indian National Anthem) 183.0 Patriotism
36 Indian Flag 178.8 Patriotism
37 Yash Raj Films 175.5 Movie/Local Brand
38 Diwali - The Festival of Lights 173.7 Festival
39 When you try doing different accents, but they all come out Indian. 163.2 Patriotism
40 Indian Army Fans 160.7 Patriotism
41 I am Hindu and i am proud to be one! 146.1 Religion
42 Sanjeev Kapoor 145.3 Chef
43 I Love Cars n Bikes 143.0 Hobby
44 You Know You Grew Up in India in the 90s When… 128.8 Patriotism
45 Jokes & Funny Pictures 128.2 Hobby
46 My name is Khan 126.8 Movie
47 Avatar India 124.8 Movie
48 Durga- The Holy Deity 123.8 Religion
49 Lord Shiva 121.0 Religion
50 Reebok India 116.1 International Brand
51 Shahid Kapoor 113.5 Actor
52 Royal Challengers Bangalore 110.1 Cricket Team
53 Ranvijay Singh 109.6 Singer
54 The Times of India 102.6 Newspaper/Local brand
55 Preity Zinta 101.1 Actress

I used to think that people in Southeast Asia are somewhat similar due to common characteristics in geology, ethnic background and economy. But I was totally wrong. Working and a little traveling have given me a chance to take a closer look into what SEA people are doing online which reveal a lot of differences.

Blogging

I once thought that most SEA people were introvert, but it seems to be that this statement can only be applied to the Vietnamese. I was surprised to find out how active people in other SEA countries are on the Internet.

In Vietnam, there are only a small number of “professional” bloggers. Most “hot” bloggers emerged from Yahoo! 360 and became famous because of sensational rag news, sex, short stories, etc. (things that tradional media can’t mention). It’s true that bloggers in Vietnam aren’t paid much attention. Earlier this year I attended PestaBlogger in Indonesia and I was amazed. It attracted about 1000 bloggers of all social groups: young, old (I even met some 50-something bloggers there); male, female (though male bloggers seem to be more prevalent); poor, rich. They blogged about anything: politics and other sensitive topics. Every blogs in Indonesia [Blogger.com ranks 5 and WordPress.com ranks 7 in Alexa Indonesia]!!

Blogging is also very popular in Malaysia [Blogger.com ranks 6 and WordPress.com ranks 15 in Alexa Malaysia].

In Philippines, there is even a bloggers association and the Philippines Blog Awards. [They call themselves a blogging nation].

It’s also true with Youthsays.com. Even though there are only 13 330 members in YouthSays Indonesia, new questions are submitted at the rate of 1 question/min. YouthSays Philippines is also much more active than YouthSays Vietnam.

Web Services

Generally, youths in Southeast Asia favor internationl products against local products. In almost every country in SEA except Vietnam [Thank to Zing.vn and VnExpress.net], 5 first places on Alexa belong to internationl products [the common denominator are Facebook, Google, Yahoo, Windows Live/YouTube]. Although Facebook is now dominant, there are still some other popular SNS and they vary in each country. Thai people show highly favor for Hi5 while the Flippino go Friendster.

Friendster

Unlike in Vietnam, Friendster is a little bit popular in other countries in SEA. As we all know, it just had a brand makeover to target Asian youths, makes it look like just a MySapce-wannabe (according to a friend of mine). The color, logo and tagline are new but the features almost remain the same except they launched “Friendster Virtual Gift Shop” and “Friendster Games” that make it look just like an Asian-born product.

Friendster claimed that it “pioneered social networking, and today is a leading web site throughout Southeast Asia, with over 75 million registered users and over 90 percent of daily traffic coming from the region.”. But from what I observed, Facebook is winning it over.

According to Reuters, there is a rumor that Friendster will be sold off by the end of this year to an Asian Internet company with the value of at least $100M. Our Vinagame might be interested :) [I'm just joking, but who knows, Vinagame is valued at $500M, they are rich].

In August 2008, it got funded $20M by IDG Ventures. Around that time, they did some pretty noisy marketing campaign in Vietnam but didn’t get any success.

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Some quick facts:

1. Only in Vietnam that people love reading news that much. Of Top 10 websites on Alexa Vietnam, there are 3 newspapers, 1 portal and 1 porn site lol

2. Singapore has the highest Internet penetration rate, 72.4 % population, Brunei ranks 2nd with 55.9% while Burma has the lowest, only 0.2%. Burnese government imposes very very strict censorship upon Internet usage. In Laos, there are only 130,000 (1.9% population) and in Cambodia there are only 74000 (0.5% population).

3. In Singapore, there are only 3,370,000 Internet users but 1,789,840 Facebook users which means more than 50% Internet users there on Facebook. The rate is also super high in Indonesia where there are 30,000,000 Internet but more than 14,000,000 Facebook users. The Indonesian do not only love blogging, they also love facebooking :)

9
Jun

HCMC 4th Tweetup

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First, I want to thank you all for joining/supporting me and Twitter Community in Vietnam at this Tweetup on Sunday, June 7, 2009.

I must admit that I felt a little bit awkward at first, because none of old Tweetup mates (except Anh Hung, KhanhLNQ, Jishan) came. As Ngon Pham said, I was like lost in an isolate island. I talked to myself: “What is the point of all these things? Why do I have to do that? Where is everybody else?” Yes, I was discouraged. But well, I have to say “Thanks” millions times to people who came join us that day, and billions times for being so active and contributive, for helping me out. We had about 20 people showing up - perfect for a tweetup. The only matter is that it was in Vietnamese, so it wasn’t so convenient for some non-Vietnamese speakers who came late. I’m so sorry about that, and I promise the next Tweetup will be in English as all other tweetups. I’m also sorry to people who couldn’t come because of late update about the venue. To people who didn’t come, please think twice & listen to actual attendees before talking ill about it.  Be thougtful!

4hcmctweetup

By Lawrence Sinclair :)

Who were there?

1. Chris Tran Huu Luat – from Admax Vietnam.

2. Tuan Tran – ???

3. Tran Dang Khoa – ???

4. Le Nguyen Quoc Khanh – i-Pop Vietnam

5. Minh Phan – i-Pop Vietnam

6. Paul Nguyen Hung – VON

7. Tim (Tuan) Duong – i-Pop Vietnam.

8. Thuy Uong – Admax Vietnam

9. Le NguyenFocation

10. Do Dang KhoiSaigonica

11. Anh Hung – TPL

12. Son Jishan – Frexy

13. Lawrence Sinclair – EastAgile

14. Patrick Kennedy – the US Consulate in Ho Chi Minh

15. Phuong (Pi) – ….

16. Tung Nguyen – RMIT

17. Le Na – ???

18. Phuong Luu - Saga

19. Huyen Chip (me, of course. I love the number 19 :D)

20. Ho Viet Haii360

21. Nguyen Duc Khiem – Mobile review

22. Bui Huu Chuong – …

23. Another guy from EastAgile, sorry, what is your name again?

24. …

My memory is really bad, so please correct me if I’m wrong, and please help me fulfill this list! Thanks a lot!

What was it about?

This tweetup was mostly about:

1. Yahoo! 360’s being shut down and its potential substitutes for Vietnam market: Facebook, WordPress, Yume, Yobanbe, Tamtay, etc.

2. The future of Twitter.

3. The market. Yes the truth is Vietnam market is very small, how can we deal with that?

4. Mobilization.

*** You can see/download full report (English) here, thank to our Minh Phan :)

*** We have some videos here, thank to KhanhLNQ.

*** Official hashtag for all Ho Chi Minh Tweetup is #hcmctweet

*** For more information/latest updates, please join us on Facebook and Googlegroups, or follow us on Twitter.

Thanks a lot!

7
Dec

Microsoft Innovation Day

   Posted by: Chip Tags: , , , ,

Dec 6th morning I went to Microsoft Innovation Day at Microsoft Auditorium in Singapore (at NTUC Center). These days MSFT are trying to lure people everywhere. I attended the same session about Silverlight just 1 day after at BarCampJB in Malaysia!!!!

Here is the agenda.

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I’m not really interested in .NET and Microsoft, but I’m interested in technology/technical evangelism. But ghosh, I lost the way as usual and arrived NTUC around 11am (this event was from 9.30am to 12.00am). Thanks God I didn’t miss the session about Windows 7. Well, they boasted a lot about it (you can see in the slide) and I wonder how it will look like. How many people here have a laptop with touch screen??

But if you’re interested, you can download some slides of this event here. Microsoft has a blog for Singapore partner at the address http://sgpartners.spaces.live.com. Wonder if they have the same site for Vietnam but they don’t.

26
Oct

Will Web 2.0 Survive?

   Posted by: Chip Tags: ,

Today I came through an interesting post on Hùng’s blog - he disagrees with Tom Davenport’s opinions about the priority for web 2.0 in this economic recession on BusinessWeek (Plz don’t ask me anything about economy or I’ll look like a dead meat =.=). Hùng, to be honest, I like your braveness and I’m quite happy to tell that you’re kind of optimistic person.

Agree with you that web 2.0 is not only about interacting and sharing with each other. Web 2.0 is greattt, and I do believe Tom has the same idea in mind.

“I am not suggesting that we will be returning to the Dark Ages, or that there isn’t some value in Web 2.0. We’ll still have friends, and it will still make sense to write on their walls on occasion. Networks are important, and they contribute to economic life as well as social life. Even over-employed workers will still produce some user-generated content. But it seems to me that many of the activities, business models, and assumptions behind social media are a bit fluffy, and that fluffiness is going to be difficult to maintain in the post-bubble environment we now find ourselves in. “

I think Tom was not saying that Web 2.0 had no value at all, he just wanna ppl to pay some more attention on other industries regarding what is the best for the economy. We need someone to produce real things not only ideas. Remember, Internet is just a tool, not your bread (well, except ppl those work on that industry - like me :( ). Knowing people is a lot of fun, but we are talking about how those relationships help us in our career, right? And I’m sure you see the answer, your most important thing is “YOUR CAREER”, not tools.

And maybe the Vietnamese context and American context are different. When I asked a friend of mine who is now in the US about Facebook and other web stuff, he said he had already wasted too much time for them, and now he had to do something for living. He is more than right! Web 2.0 has been a buzz in the US for ages, and there’s already a dot com bubble so ppl have rights to worry about another bubble. But VN is different, everything is new, so everyone’s making a fuss over that. FYI, none of sns in VN is profitable so far. Some big guys have signs showing that they are running out of money, and “smaller” guys are all waiting for VCs. And plz correct me if I’m wrong, there is some information telling me that IDGVV (IDG Vietnam) recieves no less than 50 projects a week!!!!!!! How competitive! Vietnam is not Silicon Valley anyway.

And forget the question mentioned in the title. I just don’t know how to name this post hahaa.

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