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It might sound simple, but an important factor to measure the maturity of social media in one country is the size of its largest Facebook fan pages. I was trying to find a list, but after almost an hour googling and scanning through all Facebook insight websites, the best I could find was the list from WATBlog more than 2 years back when MySpace was still the most popular social network site and Orkut still ruled in India. At that time, the largest fan page in India was for the game Scrabulous with roughly 32,000 fans.

In mid 2008, Facebook had only 77 millions users and now there are more than 500 millions people on Facebook. In India, the correspondent numbers are 646,000 and 13,000,000 (Of which, 11,300,000 are between 15 and 35 years old. Oops I feel like talking numbers and being pontifical now :P The number of Facebook users accounts for 16% total Internet users in India, which is 81,000,000 in number.)

Unable to find what I was looking for, I decided to do some researches myself. And I found out that…

the largest Facebook fan page in India has almost 1.5 million fan!! @_@

And if you are thinking what I’m thinking, you are right, the page must have something to do with Bollywood. But he’s not any of those strikingly hot actors nor actresses who are storming Bollywood gossips everyday. He’s rather a background figure, the one behind the masterpiece “Jai Ho” of Slumdog Millionaire, the first Indian who has ever won Globe Award and 2 Oscar awards. Yes, A. R. Rahman is the man! He triumphs both Aamir Khan and Shahrukh Khan to become the King of Indian Facebook community with 1,474,000 fans! He stands as a justification for the good taste of Indian millennium generation.

Following is another Bollywood product: “3 Idiots” with 1,193,000 fans. Even though I’m not really into the movie as I prefer comedies that use witty funny talks to those that rely on exaggerating actions, I have to say that the marketing team of this movie did an amazing job, both online and offline. I remembered laughing my ass off when I saw the super creative sticker on the back of most auto-rikshaws: “Capacity: 3 Idiots”. I really hope to have a chance to meet with the mastermind behind it all :-)

The next 5 places are all taken by Bollywood stars Aamir Khan, Shahrukh Khan, Salman Khan, Rabir Kapoor and Priyanka Chopra with 949,800; 747,400; 667,200; 602,900; 596,900 fans respectively. Bollywood’s fanpage itself has 297,300 fans, staying at number 14.

Coming close to Indians’ love for their homegrown Bollywood stars is their love for the country. There are a lot of fanpages created testify their patriotism and they have attracted hundreds of thousands of fans. India – Jai Ho, a fanpage created by a social media agency called SocialKonnekt, has comes 8th with 571,900 fans. Proud to be Indian, Growing INDIA, Growing Ourselves & making INDIA a better place to live in also have 327,200 and 267,200 fans. A good sign is that Indians are well aware of their accent. Every accent I try to do turns Indian has been liked by 206,500 self-conscious Facebook users.

No matter how secular the government wants India to be, India is a religious country. They love their Gods! They find everyway possible to pay their worship, either at home, in a temple or on Facebook! Lord Ganesha – the God of knowledge and the remover of obstacles – seems to be the favorite God with 453,800 fans (or should I call devotees?), occupying number 10. He is right below Akshay Kumar and above IPL – Indian Premier League, cricket league of course!

Talking about cricket, surprisingly, cricket is not a big shot here. At 11th place is the best IPL – Indian Premier League can do with  fans. Indian Cricket Team can’t even make it to Top 50 as it has only 39,000 fans. Can it be explained that Indian sport lovers are not really tech-savvy?

The thing that excites me the most is the presence of big brands on Facebook. Those giants, from international companies like Nike Football India, Blackberry India, MTV India, Samsung Mobile India, etc. to local conglomerates like Tata Docomo, Pantaloons, Kingfisher, etc. all have Facebook pages that have more than 100,000 fans each. Online stores also prove to be very good at selling online with flipkart.com and Indian Gifts Portal at number 19 and 35 with 273,000 & 190,200 fans respectively. Of course, there are always some agencies behind them. The deep pocket of big names, the eagerness of users together with the talents of young social media agencies have made Indian social media scene one of the most exciting in Asia.

Another thing worth-noticing is the existence of a company that has the name probably coined by a toddler “Socialkonnekt”, the website poorly designed, yet has created at least 7 fan pages with more than 100,000 fans. They also claimed to have increased the number of fans of a page 100,000 mores in just 8 days. I’m really curious to know how they did that. Are all those fans real? Do those fans really care about the page they become fans of? Anyone has ever heard of them? If so, please let me know. Thank you very much!

Here is the complete list of 50+ largest Indian fanpages on Facebook for your reference.

**Disclaimer:

1. This list was complied based on my own research; it’s not official and not associated with Facebook in any way. I’m sure I’ve missed out some pages which I sincerely hope that you can point out, thus we can make the list more accurate. It took me a whole day to make it, hopefully it can entertain you for few seconds.

2. By the time I finished this list, a lot of things have changed and the numbers of fans have increased.

No. Page Name Fans (000) Category
1 A. R. Rahman 1,474.0 Musician/Film Producer
2 3 Idiots 1,195.1 Movie
3 Aamir Khan 949.8 Actor
4 Shahrukh Khan 747.7 Actor
5 Salman Khan 667.2 Actor
6 Rabir Kapoor 602.9 Actor
7 Priyanka Chopra 596.9 Actress
8 India – Jai Ho 572.4 Patriotism
9 Akshay Kumar 560.9 Actor
10 Lord Ganesha 453.8 Religion
11 IPL – Indian Premier League 397.0 Cricket
12 Proud to be Indian 327.2 Patriotism
13 Bollywood 297.3 Movie
14 Facebook India 297.2 International Brand
15 Nike Football India 293.2 International Brand
16 Gandhi 286.8 Politician
17 Sarabhai vs Sarabhai 274.2 TV Show
18 flipkart.com 273.0 Local Brand
19 Growing INDIA, Growing Ourselves & making INDIA a better place to live in 267.2 Patriotism
20 India 266.0 Patriotism
21 Mumbai Indians 257.9 Cricket Team
22 Tata Docomo 257.7 Local Brand
23 Aamir Khan the Pucca Idiot 254.9 Actor
24 Pantaloons 246.5 Local Brand
25 The Taj Mahal 238.0 Landscape
26 Buzzintown 214.3 Local Brand
27 I Am Proud To Be An Indian 214.2 Patriotism
28 Kingfisher 207.2 Local Brand
29 Every accent I try to do turns Indian 206.5 Patriotism
30 BlackBerry® India 205.7 International Brand
31 Salman Khan Foundation -Being Human 192.8 Actor/NGO
32 Thank you Pakistan for taking Sania Mirza, Now Please take Rakhi Sawant also :) 192.5 lol
33 Indian Gifts Portal 190.2 Local Brand
34 Sony Erricssion India 185.5 International Brand
35 Jana Gana Mana (Indian National Anthem) 183.0 Patriotism
36 Indian Flag 178.8 Patriotism
37 Yash Raj Films 175.5 Movie/Local Brand
38 Diwali - The Festival of Lights 173.7 Festival
39 When you try doing different accents, but they all come out Indian. 163.2 Patriotism
40 Indian Army Fans 160.7 Patriotism
41 I am Hindu and i am proud to be one! 146.1 Religion
42 Sanjeev Kapoor 145.3 Chef
43 I Love Cars n Bikes 143.0 Hobby
44 You Know You Grew Up in India in the 90s When… 128.8 Patriotism
45 Jokes & Funny Pictures 128.2 Hobby
46 My name is Khan 126.8 Movie
47 Avatar India 124.8 Movie
48 Durga- The Holy Deity 123.8 Religion
49 Lord Shiva 121.0 Religion
50 Reebok India 116.1 International Brand
51 Shahid Kapoor 113.5 Actor
52 Royal Challengers Bangalore 110.1 Cricket Team
53 Ranvijay Singh 109.6 Singer
54 The Times of India 102.6 Newspaper/Local brand
55 Preity Zinta 101.1 Actress

This is my guest post for Vietnam Talking Point (VTP) – a news and editorial journal designed to shed a fresh perspective on Vietnam and Vietnamese issues. It is part of a larger effort called OneVietnam Network. OneVietnam Network is building the first online network for the Vietnamese community and it will be launched in summer 2010. For now, it needs 10000 fans on Facebook to be able to look for sponsorship. Support One Vietnam Network on Facebook here.

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Some people might say that if 2007 and 2008 are the years of Facebook clones, 2009 is the year of Twitter clones and 2010 is going to be the fail of both in Vietnam. However, the doom of Facebook and Twitter clones does not necessarily mean something bad. In fact, it has helped our Internet startups get real and forced them to work on practical ideas instead of chasing after some Facebook or Google miracles that happen on the other side of the planet. Let’s check out some of the most exciting ideas that tackle real problems in our country. If you know any that is not on the list, please do not hesitate to comment below!

Catch a bus onlinehttp://www.donxebuyt.com/

As you might already know or might not want to accept it (in case you are the one who is responsible for it), the bus system in Vietnam is a mystery with random schedules and routes. There are often cases when commuters just hop on whatever bus passing by to ask if this bus goes to a location and then hop off if it doesn’t. Realizing this problem, Nguyen Van Thanh – a 29-year-old programmer – has built a website where users can look up for bus direction from a place to another. Users can also look up for direction for cars, motorbikes and walking. When asked about revenue model, Thanh honestly answered: “This service targets mostly students and workers with low income, I haven’t thought of any way to make money yet. However, a young businessman who wants to contribute to community has invested in the project without asking for profit.” Thanh hopes that when the website is more popular, it can save time of hundreds of thousands of daily bus commuters in Ho Chi Minh City. However, how to promote this website to the worker class who is assumed to be not very geeky is a challenge.

*My 2 cents: Somehow the website reminds me of Singapore’s www.gothere.sg – my life saver service when I was in Singapore. I wonder if Thanh has ever thought of bringing this service to mobile phone, either as an application or an SMS-based service.

Delta Viet – Make your Make dreams come true http://deltaviet.com

A project by students and for students, Delta Viet was created by 2 university students named Le Viet Hong and Nguyen Thanh Minh. It might sound ironic that I categorize the project as practical while it taps into the most unrealistic thing ever: Dreams. The main philosophy behind Delta Viet is: “Life is nothing if you don’t have a dream” and “Dream is only dream until you work on it”. Delta Viet provides a platform where users can write down and manage their life goals and creates a community where people can support each other’s dream as well as find those with the same dreams. The website also publishes touching and motivative true stories written by its users. The system works! Born exactly one year ago, the website has already got some recognization like the first prize at “Starting a technology business with 300,000,000VND” (Khởi sự doanh nghiệp công nghệ với 300 triệu) competition.

Comments from a founder of Delta Viet Le Viet Hong:

“The idea behind Delta Viet is similar to that of www.43things.com, however, Delta Viet is focusing more on social activities because writing goal down is not a common thing in Vietnam. The revenue will come from advertising, training and premium memberships. Generally, there is no competition because student segment is not that potential.”

Digital “So lien lac” - www.liva.com.vn

In Vietnam, there is something called “So liên lac” – the little book invented to facilitate communication between teachers and parents and to betray all mischievous activities created by students. It was no doubt my enemy during secondary school; and it’s such a relief to know that its digital version wasn’t thought of until 2006 [when I already finished secondary school] by Viettel – a giant telco in Vietnam. The idea was soon copied by few other mobile value added service providers. Parents can send an SMS and receive their kids’ school results by SMS everyday. To make it worse, in 2009, Liva introduced Internet-based “so liên lac” where parents can log in and see their kids’ results, class’ schedule & extra curriculum, teachers’ comments, etc. and contact school immediately. This service is still under testing beta.

“Xe om” Onlinehttp://xeom.com.vn

This is the concept that made me laugh so hard that I almost fell of the chair. Xeom, literally translated as “Hugging motorbike” and academically translated as “Taxi motorbike”, is the most popular means of travel for those who don’t own a transportation in Vietnam because it’s much more convenient than bus and much cheaper than “Taxi car”. Xeom business is very random: normally you just need a motorbike and 2 helmets to become a Xeom driver. However, a group of foreigners and locals has decided to systemize it. They created a website at http://xeom.com.vn. The project aims at building the largest network of professional Xeom in Vietnam. Clients can choose their Xeom based on age, profile, language skills, city knowledge, etc. According to the website, the project has a lot of meaningful social goals like: “Elevating the pride of Xeom’s”, “Reducing pollution – Xeom’s consume lesser fuels than taxis”, “Reducing traffic congestions”, etc. I have no idea if it should be called a web service or how the execution of the project is going on, but A+ for the idea.

I used to think that people in Southeast Asia are somewhat similar due to common characteristics in geology, ethnic background and economy. But I was totally wrong. Working and a little traveling have given me a chance to take a closer look into what SEA people are doing online which reveal a lot of differences.

Blogging

I once thought that most SEA people were introvert, but it seems to be that this statement can only be applied to the Vietnamese. I was surprised to find out how active people in other SEA countries are on the Internet.

In Vietnam, there are only a small number of “professional” bloggers. Most “hot” bloggers emerged from Yahoo! 360 and became famous because of sensational rag news, sex, short stories, etc. (things that tradional media can’t mention). It’s true that bloggers in Vietnam aren’t paid much attention. Earlier this year I attended PestaBlogger in Indonesia and I was amazed. It attracted about 1000 bloggers of all social groups: young, old (I even met some 50-something bloggers there); male, female (though male bloggers seem to be more prevalent); poor, rich. They blogged about anything: politics and other sensitive topics. Every blogs in Indonesia [Blogger.com ranks 5 and WordPress.com ranks 7 in Alexa Indonesia]!!

Blogging is also very popular in Malaysia [Blogger.com ranks 6 and WordPress.com ranks 15 in Alexa Malaysia].

In Philippines, there is even a bloggers association and the Philippines Blog Awards. [They call themselves a blogging nation].

It’s also true with Youthsays.com. Even though there are only 13 330 members in YouthSays Indonesia, new questions are submitted at the rate of 1 question/min. YouthSays Philippines is also much more active than YouthSays Vietnam.

Web Services

Generally, youths in Southeast Asia favor internationl products against local products. In almost every country in SEA except Vietnam [Thank to Zing.vn and VnExpress.net], 5 first places on Alexa belong to internationl products [the common denominator are Facebook, Google, Yahoo, Windows Live/YouTube]. Although Facebook is now dominant, there are still some other popular SNS and they vary in each country. Thai people show highly favor for Hi5 while the Flippino go Friendster.

Friendster

Unlike in Vietnam, Friendster is a little bit popular in other countries in SEA. As we all know, it just had a brand makeover to target Asian youths, makes it look like just a MySapce-wannabe (according to a friend of mine). The color, logo and tagline are new but the features almost remain the same except they launched “Friendster Virtual Gift Shop” and “Friendster Games” that make it look just like an Asian-born product.

Friendster claimed that it “pioneered social networking, and today is a leading web site throughout Southeast Asia, with over 75 million registered users and over 90 percent of daily traffic coming from the region.”. But from what I observed, Facebook is winning it over.

According to Reuters, there is a rumor that Friendster will be sold off by the end of this year to an Asian Internet company with the value of at least $100M. Our Vinagame might be interested :) [I'm just joking, but who knows, Vinagame is valued at $500M, they are rich].

In August 2008, it got funded $20M by IDG Ventures. Around that time, they did some pretty noisy marketing campaign in Vietnam but didn’t get any success.

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Some quick facts:

1. Only in Vietnam that people love reading news that much. Of Top 10 websites on Alexa Vietnam, there are 3 newspapers, 1 portal and 1 porn site lol

2. Singapore has the highest Internet penetration rate, 72.4 % population, Brunei ranks 2nd with 55.9% while Burma has the lowest, only 0.2%. Burnese government imposes very very strict censorship upon Internet usage. In Laos, there are only 130,000 (1.9% population) and in Cambodia there are only 74000 (0.5% population).

3. In Singapore, there are only 3,370,000 Internet users but 1,789,840 Facebook users which means more than 50% Internet users there on Facebook. The rate is also super high in Indonesia where there are 30,000,000 Internet but more than 14,000,000 Facebook users. The Indonesian do not only love blogging, they also love facebooking :)

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Jun

HCMC 4th Tweetup

   Posted by: Chip Tags: , , , , , , , ,

First, I want to thank you all for joining/supporting me and Twitter Community in Vietnam at this Tweetup on Sunday, June 7, 2009.

I must admit that I felt a little bit awkward at first, because none of old Tweetup mates (except Anh Hung, KhanhLNQ, Jishan) came. As Ngon Pham said, I was like lost in an isolate island. I talked to myself: “What is the point of all these things? Why do I have to do that? Where is everybody else?” Yes, I was discouraged. But well, I have to say “Thanks” millions times to people who came join us that day, and billions times for being so active and contributive, for helping me out. We had about 20 people showing up - perfect for a tweetup. The only matter is that it was in Vietnamese, so it wasn’t so convenient for some non-Vietnamese speakers who came late. I’m so sorry about that, and I promise the next Tweetup will be in English as all other tweetups. I’m also sorry to people who couldn’t come because of late update about the venue. To people who didn’t come, please think twice & listen to actual attendees before talking ill about it.  Be thougtful!

4hcmctweetup

By Lawrence Sinclair :)

Who were there?

1. Chris Tran Huu Luat – from Admax Vietnam.

2. Tuan Tran – ???

3. Tran Dang Khoa – ???

4. Le Nguyen Quoc Khanh – i-Pop Vietnam

5. Minh Phan – i-Pop Vietnam

6. Paul Nguyen Hung – VON

7. Tim (Tuan) Duong – i-Pop Vietnam.

8. Thuy Uong – Admax Vietnam

9. Le NguyenFocation

10. Do Dang KhoiSaigonica

11. Anh Hung – TPL

12. Son Jishan – Frexy

13. Lawrence Sinclair – EastAgile

14. Patrick Kennedy – the US Consulate in Ho Chi Minh

15. Phuong (Pi) – ….

16. Tung Nguyen – RMIT

17. Le Na – ???

18. Phuong Luu - Saga

19. Huyen Chip (me, of course. I love the number 19 :D)

20. Ho Viet Haii360

21. Nguyen Duc Khiem – Mobile review

22. Bui Huu Chuong – …

23. Another guy from EastAgile, sorry, what is your name again?

24. …

My memory is really bad, so please correct me if I’m wrong, and please help me fulfill this list! Thanks a lot!

What was it about?

This tweetup was mostly about:

1. Yahoo! 360’s being shut down and its potential substitutes for Vietnam market: Facebook, WordPress, Yume, Yobanbe, Tamtay, etc.

2. The future of Twitter.

3. The market. Yes the truth is Vietnam market is very small, how can we deal with that?

4. Mobilization.

*** You can see/download full report (English) here, thank to our Minh Phan :)

*** We have some videos here, thank to KhanhLNQ.

*** Official hashtag for all Ho Chi Minh Tweetup is #hcmctweet

*** For more information/latest updates, please join us on Facebook and Googlegroups, or follow us on Twitter.

Thanks a lot!

Hey calm down, I’m not gonna make another long speech about macro-economics or noble patriotism. Just some thoughts about the future of Vietnamese web services in relationships with Vietnamese users and esp. early adapters.

One week ago, I had a very interesting discussion over this matter with CEO of VON - Paul Nguyen. His arguments agaisnt exotic products are:

- We Vietnamese people have to use Vietnamese products. Exotic comapnies like Google, etc. they don’t even have offices here, so they don’t have to spend so much money in Vietnam, don’t create jobs for Vietnamese but they still get users. In the mean time, Vietnamese companies have to spend millions US dollars, pay all the taxes, creates thousands jobs for Vietnamese, they should get something in return. In some countries like China, they require exotic companies to open offices in China, hire Chinese, pay taxes for Chinese governments in order to do business in China.

- Exotic products don’t necessarily mean they have better technology than Vietnamese products. Like Yahoo! 360’s technology & concept is such a lame that no where else in the world use it, except Vietnam. Yahoo! 360 plus is just a failed product in HongKong, then brought back to Vietnam. He believes Vietnamese products can do much better than that. But exotic companies have big names, and Vietnamese people are very fond of exotic things.

But he still believes in the future of Vietnamese products in general and Vietnamese social network sites in particular, b/c:

- We early adapters might find Facebook, Twitter, WordPress, Linkedin, etc. very useful and interesting. But the gap between early adapters and mass users in Vietnam is just too huge, and the number of early adapters are just so small (we have around 70k-80k facebook users compared to 2-3 millions Yahoo! 360’s users) that every service provider knows where their cash flow should go to and come from. Many Yahoo! 360’s users don’t even know how to upload a picture, they just simply hit the button “compose a blog entry” and type and send. Exotic products might be too complicated for them.

- The Vietnamese love color and show their own styles, while exotic products are normally just too simply designed. Just an example among many other differences in anguages and cultures.

He said, early adapters should use and talk more about Vietnamese products. Because if we just support exotic products, we will gradually kill Vietnamese products, let the foreigners take over us.

Several days ago was the inauguration of Nguyen Thanh Nam - the new CEO of FPT - the biggest Vietnamese IT company at the moment. One idea in his speech that drew public opinion’s attention was that he called for FPT people to use FPT’s products, not because of love only but because of trust in the products’s quality and the future of company. That might sound delirious, but is it absolutely impossible? He has his point, ofcourse.

Hm it has made me think a lot. Are we too enthusiastic about Facebook, Google, WordPress, Twitter, etc. and forget about Vietnamese products? Are we early adapters, and if yes, where do we stay if no service providers care about us?

I’m confused, though I obviously have my own explanation, but I want to hear your opinions first. Every idea is welcome. Thanks.

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As you all know, VON’s 3 most noticeable products are Timnhanh - a Viet search engine and Yume - a blog & social networkig site, and Kiemviec - an HR site, of which I’m interested the most in Yume - one of prominent candicates for Yahoo! 360′s substitute together with Tamtay, Yobanbe, YouSecond (Yeah in Vietnam blog means Yahoo! 360 and most people have no idea of what social network is. But well, it’s going to be shut down). According to Paul, Yume is gonna have a risky chance in June, with much more social features learned from Facebook.

Will you use Vietnam Web Services?

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